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#851
diluar batas sadar pelaku,tapi tetap aja tolol !
#853
wah boleh nih PM in harga2nya sama cp nya ya thx ;)
#854
oukeee hajar  *bgs* *bgs* *tepuktangan*
#855
Quote from: dirtynumbangelboy on 29/06/10, 14:38
contohnya kaya si kang mas 7 tuh,
dia susah nyerna lagunya carl cox, tapi gampang bgt nyerna hijau daun..

ah 7 mah dah tepercaya 4 *bgs* ... kal kita cerna lagu apa ya  (?)
#856
@dnb : setubuh ane  ;D ;D
@olis : yg penting asik itu yg gw suka  ;D ;D keong racun juga enak  ;D ;D
#857
lagian ini kan cuman iseng ,kalau ga vote juga ga ada yg larang ko :P
#858
Quote from: priast on 29/06/10, 12:08
Quote from: Dj jhone on 28/06/10, 22:49
waw pantengin ah ....

bahasanya colis kl lg siaran..

"PANTENGIN"... dasar Mas Boooooyyyy!! :D

;D ;D
#859
waw pantengin ah ....
#860
Quote from: olis on 28/06/10, 15:02
beuh jonhy bisa mastering *tepuktangan* nice post john...

itu JOHN CUNIBERTI bukan jhon gw  :-\ :-\
#861
The Vinyl And CD Release On One Disc From Jeff Mills

For a recent limited edition release, electronic/techno musician Jeff Mills has created a hybrid disc with a vinyl pressing on one side and a cd mix on the other. The Occurrence project merges analog and digital together in one format. The release is part of his 'Sleeper Wakes' series which Mills has undertaken to explore new sounds and unique ways to present them. For a performance earlier this year in Japan, Mills had a circular stage specially constructed with all the DJ equipment recessed into the floor. The impression was of just Mills on the stage with no sound equipment visible what so ever.










http://www.youtube.com/user/CinemaAxis

Jeff Mills Sleeper Wakes at Womb Tokyo 2010 scene 1

Jeff Mills Sleeper Wakes at Womb Tokyo 2010 scene 2

http://www.axisrecords.com/
http://sleeperwakes.com/
#862
anjrit keren bgtt *norakkangw
#863
ini baru yang novation gimana kalo gw kasih lihat yang ini :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsrI7jOX_q8&feature=player_embedded#!

silahkan di obrak abrik
#864
Pioneer CDJ-900 and CDJ-2000 Digital Media Players

The new breed - an overview




There are very few products that can truly be described as industry standard. The Pioneer CDJ-1000 is however one of them. And like other such standards, there is an overwhelming theme - quality and simplicity.

Having totally revolutionised the DJ industry with the first CDJs, Pioneer have had to face the reality that media is old hat. So they camped out in the R&D lab, chin rubbed for a while and realised that while the foundation of the CDJ was strong, the process sucks. Who wants to burn endless CDs when you could just bung it all on a USB drive. Thus "prepare and play" was devised - a software solution to make digital audio a very slick reality on the CDJ.

So before I launch into this, I'll state this plain and clear - THIS IS NOT A REVIEW. Pioneer very graciously sent me a 2000 and 900 for a sneak peek first look at mechanically finished units, but not yet software or firmware finalised. They also lack manuals and have been abused inside inside Pioneer HQ and at BPM too. So I'm in no position to tear apart every feature with in depth comparisions to existing CDJs. It just would be fair.

A full review will follow in due course and carried out by an experienced Pioneer user who can give the comparisons between old and new that some of you need.

Rekordbox



As I just stated, I've got no GM software to play with but simply an early version to kick about. The principle is quite simple - Rekordbox takes your music, analyses it for BPM and beatgrids and sticks it on your USB media. You can add loops and cues as well as updating all the tags in your selected songs.

Pioneer very kindly prepared me some songs in a more recent version of Rekordbox to test to test out, but rather than send them comfort zone tracks, I shipped off 2 CDs full of old school Hip Hop. All came back waveformed, BPM'd and ready for action. In my own testing of this version, the software performed very quickly and did a great job of analyzing, beatgridding and BPMing, even if some of the intro threw the beatgridding off a little. Nothing a quick manual tweak couldn't fix.



Looking at the contents of a prepared USB drive did set my mind at rest. I had visions of some arcane proprietary format than needed a CDJ to work, put it all came back fully accessible - but all on one level. The key here is organisation so be absolutely sure that you tag your music properly and split into playlists for quicker organisation.

Based simply on a quick first view, Rekordbox is a very capable file manager that does what it's supposed to do perfectly. Again, no nitty gritty detail or scathing criticism - just an overview until the final release is available.

Using USB media



Using USB media is simple:

1. Plug in one USB per CDJ and use it right away
2. Share one USB device via the Pioneer Pro DJ Link via a crossover RJ45 cable
3. Grab a hub and share one USB device across up to 4 CDJs

I tried them all and it all worked perfectly, and importantly quickly too.

As a workflow for the needs of digital music users, Pioneer have clearly thought about making digital music really easy to use, and embraced the methodology of tagged music, playlists and the whole preparation of music principle. This is perhaps a key component of the success of DVS systems - the handling of digital audio is nailed in Traktor and SSL, and Rekordbox adopts a similar style. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em.

Formats

Despite being all about USB media, the CDJs still have the legacy bases covered. The 900 does all the flavours of CD that the old CDJs do, and the 2000 adds DVD too. Nothing seemed to be a trouble and everything was ready to use in around 6 seconds.

Obviously, USB features on both decks. My inquisitive nature begged me to plug an Apple iPod into both CDJs, and to my surprise (after a 20 second wait), the CDJs (yes both as it's shared over the link) could read all my audio with full tags and playlists as well.



The CDJ-2000 features SD cards. As a format, I'm not entirely happy with the durability, or your ability to remember to take them home after a gig either either. But they are at least hidden safe inside the 2000. I not a big fan of USB media sticking out of the top of any player - it's an accident or theft just waiting to happen.

But I see these as backup formats as you largely lose the huge Rekord box advantage. It's helpful to have this level of access, but if you're dropping that much cash, you'd better be using the USB workflow.

Hardware



Forgive me - I've played with CDJs at trade shows and had one in the lab for a week, but aside from that I'm a real CDJ noob. So this next section won't be a comparison of old to new, but will effectively be a set of fresh eyes upon fresh gear. I could treat each unit individually, but seeing as this is an overview and that the basics of them is much the same, it's easier to cover them off overall and pick out the differences where needed.

First impressions



At first glance, they're a natural evolution from the existing range. Rounder edges have been replaced by sharper angles and a glossier finish, giving a more modern and higher quality feel. There's still a lot of plastic though, but there always was and quality doesn't seem to have been an issue. Side by side, the 2000 has much more of a light show than the 900. In a dark booth, the 2000 is going to be easier to use.



This is where the real split in quality and cost occurs. The 900 gets a large Pioneeresque screen that splits between 4 line navigation and the usual playback info plus a lo res waveform display. The 2000 however is in a whole different league and takes over from the jog wheel in the unit domination league. It's extremely sharp, bright and displays 6 lines of track info plus other assorted animated graphically rich info. The bottom section returns to familiar Pioneer ground, but does display hi res waveform data. No zoom though - just the whole thing.

A very key feature related to the 2000 screen is the Needle Search feature. This is a touch sensitive strip with a dual dual use - for skipping through the waveform or acting as a search method. It only works in pause mode but does keep playing while you have your finger on the strip. For searching you can use it for a single letter or building words to narrow down searches - a quite awkward mini keyboard. It's a hugely useful feature, and does make music use much easier on the 2000. I made a quick video:

Pioneer CDJ-2000 Needle Search

The jog wheels remain laregly unchanged. Perhaps a tad smoother, and the 2000 gets some lights - but not in the same league as it's CDJ-400 sibling. The 900 does however have a distinct creative advantage over the 2000 - slip mode. It's way easier to demonstrate than describe:

Pioneer CDJ-900 Slip Mode

This is a real attraction for trick rather than mix based DJs, and most definitely something 2000 owner will wish they had. I tested this feature with Scratch Live and Traktor, and SSL worked in absolute mode only, but Traktor was successful in both.

In reality, I found very little difference in feel, other than at the extremes of tension adjustment. I found mixing to be very easy, but the wheel is a little heavy for sustained scratch action, but probably because the lack of motor means you have to push AND pull rather than just pull. This however is a highly subjective area, and something you'd need to check out for yourself.

Because pitch adjusting cue bashing videos are oh so dull, here's the answer to the burning question for so many people - can they scratch? Well they can, but I make no such statements about me:

Scratching on the Pioneer CDJ-2000

Drumming Z3MCs on the Pioneer CDJ-2000

Loops and Hot Cues




Despite their market dominance and off the scale price, the CDJs are really simple and offer little in the way of extras beyond the basic of track playing and navigation. There is however a real split in functionality between the 900 and 2000, and this centres around cues and loops.

Firstly, the 900 has no hot cues but advanced looping. The 2000 howver has 3 hot cues but basic looping n comparison. An odd choice considering that even the most basic media players have hot cues these days. The 2000's looping is nice though - an auto 4 beat loop that can be stepped down and up and tied directly to BPM.

This is an area that will confuse potential buyers. Hopefully further testing will show us why Pioneer have chosen to implement loops and cues like this.

Tagging

Not to be confused with ID3 tags is tagging. This allows you to build a playlist on the fly by simply selecting a track across your various media on different machines and tagging them - i.e. putting them into a temporary list for future use. A nice touch that underlines the digital workflow.

MIDI

The CDJs finally get MIDI. Plugging in the USB cable to my Macbook Pro showed the CDJ right away and ready for configuration. I fired up Traktor Pro and had a quick dabble and everything seemed to work fine, albeit with a dark screen simply indicating PC Mode. Of more interest is HID mode - this will allow direct high speed communication between computer and CDJ. This should make the jog wheel work and the screen interact properly.

But my time was tight with the CDJs so I wasn't going to spend too much time with MIDI learn making them work perfectly. I configured a handful of controls and they worked fine. I'm sure the various manufacturers will be issuing updates to their software in due course.

DVS Usage

This seems largely academic really. Timecode CD use is likely to be a second rate solution given that HID mode is in effect - but not yet supported in the software I have. I fired up SSL and Traktor, both worked with a tiny bit more latency than timecode vinyl, but things like looping and hot cues only worked in absolute mode. Slip Mode does work too, but again only in absolute mode.

I wonder though if DVS usage is a benefit on a CDJ. You pay a heap of cash for a lot of "prepare and play" functionality that isn't needed because your DVS has it all covered. Seems like a waste really.

And to clarify this once and for all - despite what the original Pioneer demo video may have inferred, you still need the SL-1 or SL-3 interfaces to run Scratch Live on the new CDJs. No ifs, no buts and no hope of just downloading the software and trying it out. You need Rane hardware to run Scratch Live software. End of discussion.

Odd differences




Forgive me for donning my time served production engineering white coat for a moment, but I'm irked by the lack of standardisation and cost savings that possibly could have been made. Here was a perfect opportunity to have 2 different units built on the same foundation - same base, buttons, screen cover etc which would have instilled familiarity across the units and importantly reduced production costs. But there appears to be only a common jog wheel plus a handful of shared buttons.

And that price...

I know Pioneer hate me bringing this up, but it needs saying. Pioneer have an unashamed self cultivated "professional" tag, and make no secret of wanting to own the high end club market - and it's this aspirational element to Pioneer products that reinforces the importance of perceived value over true value. But you can buy a pair of its nearest competitor for the price of a single CDJ-2000 - and that competitor is arguably better features wise too. A bitter pill to swallow in these cash strapped times.

That said, CDJs have always been expensive, and I've never heard of anyone who felt shortchanged, and the other industry standard share the same top end price bracket too.

Summing Up



So the "new species" campaign was less about adding stuff to the existing models and more about revolutionsing the workflow from CDs to all digital. And Pioneer have succeeded in doing just that. I feel that the prepare and play principle concept has been very well implemented, the USB usage of sharing across 4 decks is incredibly good, and the familiarity of the new CDJs is very much in line with the ideology of small steps but still keeping it very simple. They're certainly very nice to work with - track navigation has been made very easy on both units which is the key thing about the USB workflow. There's no point in having USB devices full of music if you can't use it.

Ultimately though, this has been a pointless exercise in wanton wordery. We all know that when it comes to CDJs, people will simply cast aside their usual review-scouring cautiousness and just buy them anyway. And this is what defines an industry standard - iconic branding with reassuringly expensive quality, reliability and simplicity. Pioneer did it with CDs, and now they will do it in the entirely digital domain.

Make no mistake - the new CDJs will define the next club standard and establish the future of DJ digital audio.

Gallery

I threw together a handful of pics - nothing too special as Pioneer already have a heap of glossy ones of their own. And forgive the somewhat battered appearance. They've been through an awful lot in their short existence.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skratchworx/sets/72157622506738189/show/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/skratchworx/sets/72157622506709585/show/


Huge thanks to Pioneer UK for the loan, and to Rik Parkinson dropping them off - one of the very few people in the world to see inside .
#865
ok karena banyak yg minta gw review cdj 900 dan cdj 2000 ... tunggu ya
#866
udah ada yang coba ?? share dong ;)
#867
^
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gw juga oot :P
#868
Quote from: sense on 25/06/10, 18:41
Baca pake google translate postingannya malah ada suami2an
Quote from: Dj R'AngeL on 28/06/10, 02:03
sangat berguna jon!!

tnyata ga jauh dr T-racks sm waves.

gw copy and di translate...

;D

*bgs*

@ sense : lo terjemahin ke bahasa jerman sih  ;D ;D
@ ricky : seep hajar broo ;)
#869
yuk kita vote
#870
Sport / Re: ONE STOP FOOTBALL
27/06/10, 23:02
jerman !!!
#871
Quote from: bless the child on 27/06/10, 08:56
uhhhh aku mau dua2nya...hahahahaha

kelakuan si keong racun  ;D ;D *piss*
#873
sukses selalu ;)
#874
masyarakat indonesia lebih gampang mencerna lagu dnb,dubstep,jungle dsb. atau trance, techno, house dsb.. ?

menurut gw aja ya umumnya 70% masyarakat indonesia kebanyakan lebih suka trance, techno, house dsb. dibandingkan dengan dnb,dubstep,jungle dsb. knp  (?)

ya ambil yang paling gampangnya aja,knp dnb dsb susah berkembang di indonesia dibanding sama house dsb,
1.event nya dnb jarang dibanding sama house,trance dsb
2.kebiasaan dan sering dengar trance,techno,house dsb
3.kebanyakan artis indonesia lebih menpopulerkan  trance,house,techno dsb
4.selanjutnya simpulkan sendiri aja  ;D ;D  :P

ini buat masyarakat indonesia terutama partygoers aka clubers
#875
Nih, gue ringkas aja yah....

HOUSE
Constant 4/4 beat. Terbentuk oleh karena kebosanan para DJ akan aliran 80's Disco. Yang kemudian semakin colorful oleh masyarakat UK dengan menambahkan pop flavor ke dalam musik ini.

Sub-genre:
· Deep/Dark House – Heavy bass line, mysterious synth. Lebih ke Twisted-feel-audience. Menggunakan komponen Tribal. Exp : MMII - Digweed

· Progressive House – Paling popular dan paling berkembang di aliran ini. Hampir semua club muali dari New York sampe Ibiza memainkan musik ini. Tetap dengan khas 4/4, tetapi ciri khasnya adalah Opening/introduction menggunakan synth melody atau layered effect, sehingga kita dapat dengan spontan mengetahui lagu apa yg sedang dimainkan oleh sang DJ. Biasanya berdurasi panjang/long play Exp : GlobalUnderground series.

· Soulful House – Khas dengan vocalis perempuan, terutama yg "bersuara" afro-american. Tetap menggunakan 4/4 rhythm, tetapi ada penambahan unsure soul dan jazz. Exp : Body and Soul NYC, David Morales.

· Tech House – Terbagi dua : UK dan Detroit style. Yg UK style lebih berani memainkan nadanya, sedangkan Detroit Style hampir menyerupai old-skool techno. Bahkan Tech house sering menjadi opening mood para DJ yg main Techno. Exp : Drop Music's Inland Knights, Kevin Fisher.

· Hard House – Distorted bass drums. Lebih kompleks dari Progressive House.

TRANCE
Berasal dari Techno dan kemudian dikembangkan menjadi lebih "kreatif". Dengan mengambil beat khas techno dan menggabungkannya dengan melody yg fast pacing. Sering di analogikan dengan commercialised Euro Dance. Termasuk yg paling banyak pengikutnya.
Sub-genre:
· Progressive Trance – Banyak yg bilang, ini adalah perubahan dari Progressive House, tetapi lebih banyak melody'nya, lebih banyak breakdown'nya dan biasanya lebih bersifat "puncak". Exp : Politiks Of Dance – Paul Van Dyk, Ayumix - Ayumi Hamasaki.

· Goa Trance – Hippie'nya Trance. Very fast, very spiritual and very complicated. Berasal dari India, tetapi dengan cepat menyebar ke Eropa. Exp : Singularity – Fly Rhino.

TECHNO
Salah satu aliran tertua yang pernah ada di dunia musik. Keluar dari para "jagoan" Funk, R&B, dan Disco, yang merasa musik2 mereka butuh nuansa "electronic".

Sub-genre:
· Detroit Techno – Paling popular di seluruh dunia. Funky, Twisted, dan upbeat, sehingga memudahkan kita mengenali aliran ini. Ada yg bilang kalai ini adalah salah satu bentuk termurni dari dance music. Boleh dibilang begitu karena sudah bertahan selama 2 dekade. Exp : Metropolis – Jeff Mills.

· Minimalist Techno – Kadang terdengar lebih complicated dari "saudaranya". Padahal kalau diperhatikan, aliran ini cukup straightforward dan lebih terpaku pada layout beat'nya. Terkenal di Australia, Swedia dan Jerman. Exp : Wetmusik Mixed Up.

BREAKS
Seringkali di salah artikan sebagai "musik yg bukan 4/4" ^_^. Akan tetapi lebih benar dikatakan kalau di aliran ini, irama dari drum dan perkusinya hampir "mendekati" irama 4/4. Hampir semua irama yg ada dialiran ini merupakan sampling dari musiknya James Brown. Istilahnya " Where a break is the beat within a break". Break music biasanya berkisar antara 80bpm( of hip hop ) sampai 160bpm ( drum and bass ).
Sub-genre:
· Break Beat – berawal dari DJ tahun 70'an, DJ Kool Herc, yg sering memainkan variasi drum solo diantara dua lagu funk, yang menghasilkan sebuah "breakdown" dan membuat para pengunjung jadi "gila". Sejak saat itu lahirlah istilah Break Beat. The Grandaddy of Hip-hop, Drum and Bass dan semua funky beat yg ada saat ini. Exp : Adam Freeland, Better Livin' Through Chemistry – Fatboy Slim.

· Drum and Bass – diasosiasikan dengan Jungle style, dimana sebuah lagu tiba2 hilang ( breaks ) menjadi hanya instrumen drum dan bass'nya saja. Really fast ( 140-170bpm ). Yang menjadi ciri khas, justru instrumen lain ( selain drum & bassnya ) serta penyanyinya, tetap menggunakan setengah dari irama drum&bass'nya. Mulai di London tahun 90'an. Exp : Roni Size/DJ Marky.

· Garage – Lahir dari sebuah club di New York yang bernama Paradise Garage, di jalan King Street. Dimana DJ'nya, Larry Levan, memainkan underground Black American disco ( ???? what ) dicampur dengan "white" music. Kemudian berkembang lagi menjadi Speed Garage – Garage dengan sentuhan House.

· US Garage – Hampir sama dengan yg diatas, tapi lebih banyak unsur live instrument dan lebih "white". Exp: Garage Anthem – Craig Steven.

· UK Garage / 2 Step – Sedikit lebih pelan dari US garage dan banyak unsur repetasinya/rewinding. Aliran inilah yg paling sering dibuat oleh artis2 di Europe, terutama artis2 UK charts. Speed up Hip-hop beat. Menganut aliran Drum and Bass, kadang beatnya lebih cepat dari melodynya. Exp : Artful Dodger – ReRewind, Trusteppers.

· TripHop – Menakutkan! Mungkin itu kata yang tepat buat aliran ini. Gabungan antara Jungle style, reggae dan jazz, dengan sentuhan Hip-hop sebagai tulang punggungnya. Muncul pertama kali di Bristol, England di awal 80'an. Psychedelic Hip Hop, menjadi ciri khas Hip hop diluar daratan US. Exp : Massive Attack, Portished, Tricky.

· Acid Jazz – Funky Styler side of Jazz. Bener-bener jazz yang diluar kebiasaan jazz. Oleh karena itu, akar dari jazznya lebih sedikit daripada aliran jazz yang lain, tetapi aliran ini justru banyak menggabungkan banyak unsure 70's Jazz, Funk, Hip-hop and soul, bahkan Swing dan Groove. Bisa Live music, bisa sampling, dan bisa gabungan keduanya. Bisa Upbeat, bisa downtempo. Pokoknya ultra-flexible. Exp : Jamiroquai, Brand New Heavies.

HIP HOP
Satu kalimat – DJ Kool Herc. Kalau dia tidak mencipatakan "irama-irama" khasnya, nisacaya, music hip-hop tidak akan seperti sekarang. Dengan menggabungkan "back-and-forth" dua buah sampling music, dan taruh diatasnya lyric yang catchy, jadilah Hip-hop. Khas sekali dengan afro-american music.
Sub-Genre:
· Rap – "Rhymers spittin' lyrical flowz". Kadang disertai dengan "Strong Bass", seorang rapper akan mengeluarkan kata2 yg berirama diatasnya. Bouncing sounds of Pop dan kata2 kotor seakan menghiasi aliran ini. Lebih dari sekedar budaya afro-america dengan phat beats dan funky rhymes. Exp : N.W.A, Tupac, Snoop-Dog, Eminem.

· R&B – Rhythm & Blues sepertinya adalah bagian dari Hip-hop yg paling bisa dinikmati oleh penggemar non-Hip-hopers. Khas dengan balada diatas beat2 yang menyerupai "saudaranya", rap.Classic Motown style dari tahun 70'an. Tidak "keras" seperti rap, lebih ke arah flow feeling atau spiritual. Exp : Lauryn Hill, Kci & Jojo.


Gimana?
Ada yg kurang atau musti dibetulin?
Justru karena gue baca artikel ini, gue makin bingung....si "dia" masuk ke aliran mana? Apa iya, setiap DJ/artis punya kebebasan untuk memainkan berbagai macam aliran?

Misalnya, SafriDuo masuk aliran mana?