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WHAT IS PROGRESSIVE?

Started by Gober, 29/01/06, 21:57

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Ayo mari kita bikin definisi masing masing mengenai musik ini... Buat bahan pelajaran bagi yang nggak tahu.

Definisikan Progressive sesuai apa yang elo tahu, mungkin bisa dilengkapi dengan contoh lagu dan Artis / DJ nya...
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Overview

Most electronic dance music tracks released are produced with certain features that are favourable for DJs to beatmatch records togher with an almost seamless sound to it. Unlike the obvious song structures of genres like hard house or Hi-NRG, the peaks and troughs in a progressive dance track tend to be less obvious. Layering different sounds on top of each other and slowly bringing them in and out of the mix is a key idea behind the progressive movement.

When discussing progressive electronic styles, the term "progressive" typically refers to the progressive structure (that changes occur incrementally, as in the case of progressive house). The exception is progressive trance, since trance is typically progressive in structure already. Progressive trance usually refers to a type of trance music that's minimalistic and more beat and percussion centric.

In the case of progressive house, the term 'progressive' can also refer to the style's open mindedness to bring in new features to prog-house tracks. Such elements can be almost anything, like a guitar loop, computer generated noises, typical elements of other music genres etc. Please consider that this feature makes the genre change all the time, apparently faster than the other electronic genres (trance, techno, ...).
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Progressive house

Progressive house has its origins in Britain in the early 1990s, with the output of the Guerrilla record label and Leftfield's first singles (particularly "Song of Life") inspiring, according to various accounts, either Genesis P-Orridge of Throbbing Gristle fame or then Mixmag editor Dom Phillips to coin the term. In 1992, what was to be the first superclub, Renaissance threw open its doors in the small mining town of Mansfield, and its DJs - particularly Sasha and the then-unknown John Digweed - were instrumental in pushing the sound in its early days. The music itself consisted of the 4-to-floor beat of house music allied to deeper, dub-influenced basslines and a more melancholic, emotional edge. Often, the ethereal "swirly" textures of early trance could be heard in the mix, and various other elements from across the electronic spectrum. "Song of Life", for instance, has a trip-hop like down-pitched breakbeat and a high-energy Roland TB-303 riff at various stages.

The centre-of-gravity of the sound, so to speak, has shifted over the years. After the release of Brian Transeau's (aka BT) debut album "Ima", for instance, the bulk of the style's records were in a more ethereal, melodic style. (That record was also an enormous influence on the nascent progressive trance sound.) Then, as trance became more and more popular and melodic, prog darkened and acted as a deliberately underground counterpoint, merging with tribal house to produce many very minimal percussive tracks as this decade kicked off. Modern progressive house tracks have innovative bass lines and strong closed atmospheric sounds. This particular style made the rise of a new sub genre, 'Dark House'. (It also marked the return to the sound of Sasha and Digweed, who had picked up and popularised the progressive trance sound in the interim.)
[edit]

Progressive trance

Progressive trance is popular sub-genre in trance music and contains elements of house, techno and ambient music. The basic formula of trance became even more focused on the anthemic qualities and melodies, moving away from predictable arpeggiated analog synth patterns (aka acid synth lines). Acoustic elements and spacey pads became popular, compositions leaned towards incremental changes (aka progressive structures), sometimes composed in thirds (like Brian Transeau frequently does). The sound became more and more ethereal and heavenly. Progressive trance contains very intuitive elements, such as unusual basslines or original synths, which generally make it more "catchy".

The structure of progressive trance is different from a typical techno track. The introduction generally starts with slower ambient beats. Following this section is a "breakdown" and then the main melody. Electronic effects and vocals are usually in both the intro and the coda.

Phrases can be any multiple of 4 bars (4-8-12-16 etc.) in most typical progressive trance tracks. Phrases usually begin with the introduction of a new or different melody, or the introduction of hi-hats to the track. In progressive trance there may be four more simultaneous layers.

Known artists in this electronic music genre include Brian Transeau, James Holden, Luke Chable, DJs Sasha and John Digweed. Newer artists include Terje Bakke, The Last Atlant, Hydroid, Gerry Cueto.
[edit]

Progressive breaks

Progressive breaks is a relatively recent phenomenon, essentially growing out of nu skool breaks and progressive house. However, Way Out West was fusing progressive house, trance and breaks in a successful commercial fashion with "The Gift" and "Domination" in 1996 with Hybrid introducing "Symphony" the same year. It is mostly of a trancier feel, with plenty of atmospheric pads and melodies. Most artists working in the genre also work in its immediate relatives too, with only the likes of Hybrid really sticking to it consistently. That said, it is one of the more exciting developments on the progressive scene.

Progressive breaks artists include Digital Witchcraft, Momu, Hybrid and progressive house artists include Leftfield, BT, Steve Porter; however, the lines between these progressive styles and progressive trance, as groups such as Way Out West and Fluke have shown with their works, are less pronounced now than they were originally.
[edit]

Progressive psytrance

Progressive psytrance is the progressive form of psychedelic trance. Some see it as the evolution of minimalist trance. Important artists in the genre include Son Kite, Krueger & Coyle , Vibrasphere, Sensient, Phacelift, Krumelur and Igneous Sauria. Contrary to mainstream progressive trance, psy-progressive is usually not as uplifting as it puts more focus on sound production rather than melody. The structure is not well-defined as in most other styles of progressive trance.
[edit]

Progressive drum & bass

There are a few forms of Drum & Bass which are considered progressive. Neurofunk, a progression of the Techstep subgenre incorporates elements of Jazz and Funk along with multiple electronic influences including Techno and Trance. The style also follows traditional progressive form, building up to a peak of intensity. Drumfunk, a relatively new subgenre, is also considered progressive by many, along with Techstep itself.
[edit]

Similarities in progressive genres

Since about 2000, progressive house and progressive trance have mostly converged, it's very difficult to differentiate one from another. While the faster (130-140bpm), more energetic records can continue to be classified as progressive trance, most producers from both styles have moved towards a softer, slower (110-130bpm) sound, and prefer to be classified as progressive house. In addition since 2000 many psychedelic trance artists also moved to a slower (125-138bpm) range branding their style as progressive trance or progressive psytrance.
[edit]

Artists and labels

DJs who play progressive sounds include:

    * John Digweed
    * Sasha
    * Brian Transeau
    * James Holden
    * Nick Warren
    * James Zabiela
    * Sander Kleinenberg
    * Deep Dish
    * Jimmy van M
    * Steve Porter
    * Danny Tenaglia
    * Luke Chable
    * Sector7seven
    * Moshic
    * Andrew Casric

Progressive music producers:

    * Timo Maas
    * Hybrid (band)
    * Way Out West
    * Suspender
    * Infusion
    * Shiloh (group)
    * Opencloud
    * Tilt (producers)
    * Trafik
    * Source of Gravity
    * POB
    * Humate
    * Jondi & Spesh
    * Luke Chable
    * Andy Page
    * Andrew Kelly
    * Phacelift
    * JT Castillo
    * Tom Sawyer (DJ/Producer)
    * 16 Bit Lolitas
    * Bedrock (producers)
    * Breeder (producers)
    * John Graham (producer) (a.k.a. Quivver)

Progressive record labels include:

    * Audio Therapy
    * Bedrock Records
    * Brainiak Records
    * Blue Plasma Recordings
    * Cyber Recordings
    * Deep Records
    * Distincti've Records
    * Dorigen
    * Fire Recordings
    * Little Mountain Recordings
    * Pacific Front Recordings
    * Proton Music
    * Redrush Records
    * South Records
    * Toes in the Sand Recordings
    * Yoshitoshi Records
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beautiful build ups, layer by layer, and boom there it goes....very classy hehe...

pumping beats, huge basslines.. boom boom  ;D

28/03/06, 15:41 #6 Last Edit: 01/07/06, 14:24 by secret admirer
Uncle Gober ..thats  COOL......Top dech Forum ini....sayang gw baru tahu sekarang......
Progressive tuch keren kalo beatnya Pumping , trus layered with trippy melodic sounds.... Top Abies....!!!
If 'progressive' means innovation with subtle emotions, I love this style. But it's true that we all need styles and I like the idea that 'progressive' is associated with quality." - Benoit Franquet (Pole Folder)

ada journeynya... just like having xes... beautiful one!  ;D

gue pernah baca di muzik, taon 2000an gitu.. tentang jenis-jenis house-music lengkap beserta tahun dan tokoh-tokohnya.. di situ dibilang.. (yang gue inget ya versi bahasa) : "begitu sasha & john digweed mulai merambah area progressive house, orang lain ga usah main lagi deh.."   ;D ;D ;D (ya gimana mo ngalahin mereka berdua, sons of God).

"I gotta thank God for the music, cause the music saved my life" - Cevin Fisher

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proggy? sedaapp.... apalagi kalo sasha ama digweed.. nga ama matinya,juo!  :o

Quote from: jazzymike on 01/07/06, 12:57
proggy? sedaapp.... apalagi kalo sasha ama digweed.. nga ama matinya,juo!  :o

NORTHERN EXPOSURE maksudnya...??? hehe...

Hmm kalo di Jakarta Dj Proggy yg stylenya mirip Sasha & Digweed menurut gw cuma Deny & Morten..... :) :)
If 'progressive' means innovation with subtle emotions, I love this style. But it's true that we all need styles and I like the idea that 'progressive' is associated with quality." - Benoit Franquet (Pole Folder)

kagak juga,sob... sendiri2 juga tetep sedap kok..  ;)
tapi kalo udah northern exposure.. aih.. mateee...... mlintir dibuatnya  ::)

Hmmm.....jadi inget jaman dulu , gimana kerennya Proggynya Sasha + Digweed.........kapan ya era itu bisa terulang lagi...? ??? ???
If 'progressive' means innovation with subtle emotions, I love this style. But it's true that we all need styles and I like the idea that 'progressive' is associated with quality." - Benoit Franquet (Pole Folder)

namabhin... cuma quote dari bbrp user di progressivehouse.com
bagus2 deh...

QuoteEverything which is Progressive in Music Either it's Rock , Trance , Techno or other , means :

1 : Non Commercial ( i.e. not radio friendly )
2 : It should be Avant Gardiste in Sounds and co
3 : Trippy and Dark ( Progressive Worst enemies are Happy funky house and Euro Cheesy trance )
4 : Less Vocals More Atmospheres
5 : No Verse Chorus Bridge Verse Chorus condition to build a track
6 : Long tracks + sequels if needed
7 : Intro and outro in Progressive House is like Appetizers and Dessert
8 : Progressive tracks titles are as weird as Marquis de Sade
9 : Delay effects + other is for progressive as Tb 303 and 909 to Acid House
10 : Can be played after 20 years and still sounding fresh

dj Fady Ferraye
Quoteprogressive is a way of thinking, a way of being, just trippin sound that takes you in another dimension made of emotion, feeling sand love.. Even if it's dark (or minimal ) progressive the content is always positive...
Progressive is a therapy just lets you feels otherand better.
It's on the edge o different styles , a crossing over world influences, a speach that come from the soul of the earth and takes you to the highest skies...

Kromauzom
Quoteprogressive to me means something that doesn't sound like stuff we've heard before.... cutting edge stuff, embracing new ideas, new synths, new software.... people like Armin Van Helden (who sounds like he still solely produces on an MPC) are prime examples of what I DONT consider progressive.

colinc
Quoteyeah exactly blending different styles and creating a new one is the name of the new Hybrid game .
dj Fady Ferraye
Quote...as for me...progressive is "being different and free". It's so easy for the one to find himself in the progressive house music or breaks. The only requirement for the one is to have soul. Individual soul. This kind of music just helps u to find something beautiful, positive in the deeppest corners of your inner world. It's not just about the hypnotizing echos or charming atmospheres, it's about the feeling you're filled with after you've listened to this kind of music...

Denis Gursky

mantappfh... :D

The centre-of-gravity of the sound, so to speak, has shifted over the years. After the release of Brian Transeau's (aka BT) debut album "Ima", for instance, the bulk of the style's records were in a more ethereal, melodic style. (That record was also an enormous influence on the nascent progressive trance sound.) Then, as trance became more and more popular and melodic, prog darkened and acted as a deliberately underground counterpoint, merging with tribal house to produce many very minimal percussive tracks as this decade kicked off. Modern progressive house tracks have innovative bass lines and strong closed atmospheric sounds. This particular style made the rise of a new sub genre, 'Dark House'. (It also marked the return to the sound of Sasha and Digweed, who had picked up and popularised the progressive trance sound in the interim.)
[edit]
progressive house is about being two steps ahead than the house foundation itself ,where all the elements of music can blended together in one groovy/tech/tribal/deep/electro in harmony.
Some people never know that all the world class proggy lovers are the house lovers all the way (SASHA)

Quote from: bulgur on 12/02/07, 19:16

progressive house is about being two steps ahead than the house foundation itself ,where all the elements of music can blended together in one groovy/tech/tribal/deep/electro in harmony.

Some people never know that all the world class proggy lovers are the house lovers all the way (SASHA)

jadi kapan nih sasha (dj set) di jakarta lagi ???
when we go faster and harder "we gotta keep it soulful"

Quote from: le_gaiyya on 13/02/07, 07:23
Quote from: bulgur on 12/02/07, 19:16

progressive house is about being two steps ahead than the house foundation itself ,where all the elements of music can blended together in one groovy/tech/tribal/deep/electro in harmony.

Some people never know that all the world class proggy lovers are the house lovers all the way (SASHA)

jadi kapan nih sasha (dj set) di jakarta lagi ???

iya nih sasha & digweed sekalian...

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Quote from: Gober on 30/01/06, 14:16
Overview

Most electronic dance music tracks released are produced with certain features that are favourable for DJs to beatmatch records togher with an almost seamless sound to it. Unlike the obvious song structures of genres like hard house or Hi-NRG, the peaks and troughs in a progressive dance track tend to be less obvious. Layering different sounds on top of each other and slowly bringing them in and out of the mix is a key idea behind the progressive movement.

When discussing progressive electronic styles, the term "progressive" typically refers to the progressive structure (that changes occur incrementally, as in the case of progressive house). The exception is progressive trance, since trance is typically progressive in structure already. Progressive trance usually refers to a type of trance music that's minimalistic and more beat and percussion centric.

In the case of progressive house, the term 'progressive' can also refer to the style's open mindedness to bring in new features to prog-house tracks. Such elements can be almost anything, like a guitar loop, computer generated noises, typical elements of other music genres etc. Please consider that this feature makes the genre change all the time, apparently faster than the other electronic genres (trance, techno, ...).
[edit]

Progressive house

Progressive house has its origins in Britain in the early 1990s, with the output of the Guerrilla record label and Leftfield's first singles (particularly "Song of Life") inspiring, according to various accounts, either Genesis P-Orridge of Throbbing Gristle fame or then Mixmag editor Dom Phillips to coin the term. In 1992, what was to be the first superclub, Renaissance threw open its doors in the small mining town of Mansfield, and its DJs - particularly Sasha and the then-unknown John Digweed - were instrumental in pushing the sound in its early days. The music itself consisted of the 4-to-floor beat of house music allied to deeper, dub-influenced basslines and a more melancholic, emotional edge. Often, the ethereal "swirly" textures of early trance could be heard in the mix, and various other elements from across the electronic spectrum. "Song of Life", for instance, has a trip-hop like down-pitched breakbeat and a high-energy Roland TB-303 riff at various stages.

The centre-of-gravity of the sound, so to speak, has shifted over the years. After the release of Brian Transeau's (aka BT) debut album "Ima", for instance, the bulk of the style's records were in a more ethereal, melodic style. (That record was also an enormous influence on the nascent progressive trance sound.) Then, as trance became more and more popular and melodic, prog darkened and acted as a deliberately underground counterpoint, merging with tribal house to produce many very minimal percussive tracks as this decade kicked off. Modern progressive house tracks have innovative bass lines and strong closed atmospheric sounds. This particular style made the rise of a new sub genre, 'Dark House'. (It also marked the return to the sound of Sasha and Digweed, who had picked up and popularised the progressive trance sound in the interim.)
[edit]

Progressive trance

Progressive trance is popular sub-genre in trance music and contains elements of house, techno and ambient music. The basic formula of trance became even more focused on the anthemic qualities and melodies, moving away from predictable arpeggiated analog synth patterns (aka acid synth lines). Acoustic elements and spacey pads became popular, compositions leaned towards incremental changes (aka progressive structures), sometimes composed in thirds (like Brian Transeau frequently does). The sound became more and more ethereal and heavenly. Progressive trance contains very intuitive elements, such as unusual basslines or original synths, which generally make it more "catchy".

The structure of progressive trance is different from a typical techno track. The introduction generally starts with slower ambient beats. Following this section is a "breakdown" and then the main melody. Electronic effects and vocals are usually in both the intro and the coda.

Phrases can be any multiple of 4 bars (4-8-12-16 etc.) in most typical progressive trance tracks. Phrases usually begin with the introduction of a new or different melody, or the introduction of hi-hats to the track. In progressive trance there may be four more simultaneous layers.

Known artists in this electronic music genre include Brian Transeau, James Holden, Luke Chable, DJs Sasha and John Digweed. Newer artists include Terje Bakke, The Last Atlant, Hydroid, Gerry Cueto.
[edit]

Progressive breaks

Progressive breaks is a relatively recent phenomenon, essentially growing out of nu skool breaks and progressive house. However, Way Out West was fusing progressive house, trance and breaks in a successful commercial fashion with "The Gift" and "Domination" in 1996 with Hybrid introducing "Symphony" the same year. It is mostly of a trancier feel, with plenty of atmospheric pads and melodies. Most artists working in the genre also work in its immediate relatives too, with only the likes of Hybrid really sticking to it consistently. That said, it is one of the more exciting developments on the progressive scene.

Progressive breaks artists include Digital Witchcraft, Momu, Hybrid and progressive house artists include Leftfield, BT, Steve Porter; however, the lines between these progressive styles and progressive trance, as groups such as Way Out West and Fluke have shown with their works, are less pronounced now than they were originally.
[edit]

Progressive psytrance

Progressive psytrance is the progressive form of psychedelic trance. Some see it as the evolution of minimalist trance. Important artists in the genre include Son Kite, Krueger & Coyle , Vibrasphere, Sensient, Phacelift, Krumelur and Igneous Sauria. Contrary to mainstream progressive trance, psy-progressive is usually not as uplifting as it puts more focus on sound production rather than melody. The structure is not well-defined as in most other styles of progressive trance.
[edit]

Progressive drum & bass

There are a few forms of Drum & Bass which are considered progressive. Neurofunk, a progression of the Techstep subgenre incorporates elements of Jazz and Funk along with multiple electronic influences including Techno and Trance. The style also follows traditional progressive form, building up to a peak of intensity. Drumfunk, a relatively new subgenre, is also considered progressive by many, along with Techstep itself.
[edit]

Similarities in progressive genres

Since about 2000, progressive house and progressive trance have mostly converged, it's very difficult to differentiate one from another. While the faster (130-140bpm), more energetic records can continue to be classified as progressive trance, most producers from both styles have moved towards a softer, slower (110-130bpm) sound, and prefer to be classified as progressive house. In addition since 2000 many psychedelic trance artists also moved to a slower (125-138bpm) range branding their style as progressive trance or progressive psytrance.
[edit]

Artists and labels

DJs who play progressive sounds include:

    * John Digweed
    * Sasha
    * Brian Transeau
    * James Holden
    * Nick Warren
    * James Zabiela
    * Sander Kleinenberg
    * Deep Dish
    * Jimmy van M
    * Steve Porter
    * Danny Tenaglia
    * Luke Chable
    * Sector7seven
    * Moshic
    * Andrew Casric

Progressive music producers:

    * Timo Maas
    * Hybrid (band)
    * Way Out West
    * Suspender
    * Infusion
    * Shiloh (group)
    * Opencloud
    * Tilt (producers)
    * Trafik
    * Source of Gravity
    * POB
    * Humate
    * Jondi & Spesh
    * Luke Chable
    * Andy Page
    * Andrew Kelly
    * Phacelift
    * JT Castillo
    * Tom Sawyer (DJ/Producer)
    * 16 Bit Lolitas
    * Bedrock (producers)
    * Breeder (producers)
    * John Graham (producer) (a.k.a. Quivver)

Progressive record labels include:

    * Audio Therapy
    * Bedrock Records
    * Brainiak Records
    * Blue Plasma Recordings
    * Cyber Recordings
    * Deep Records
    * Distincti've Records
    * Dorigen
    * Fire Recordings
    * Little Mountain Recordings
    * Pacific Front Recordings
    * Proton Music
    * Redrush Records
    * South Records
    * Toes in the Sand Recordings
    * Yoshitoshi Records


kalau yg ini progressive yg mna?

permainan kick and bass yang nge beat and dub.... jadi nge flow for crowd...
good 4 dugemmm....

Quote from: le_gaiyya on 13/02/07, 07:23
Quote from: bulgur on 12/02/07, 19:16

progressive house is about being two steps ahead than the house foundation itself ,where all the elements of music can blended together in one groovy/tech/tribal/deep/electro in harmony.

Some people never know that all the world class proggy lovers are the house lovers all the way (SASHA)

:)
:(:(I LOVE MUSIC :):)

Quote from: soul_selekta on 16/02/08, 17:34
Quote from: le_gaiyya on 13/02/07, 07:23
Quote from: bulgur on 12/02/07, 19:16

progressive house is about being two steps ahead than the house foundation itself ,where all the elements of music can blended together in one groovy/tech/tribal/deep/electro in harmony.

Some people never know that all the world class proggy lovers are the house lovers all the way (SASHA)

:)

80 % agree + 20 % dark side of house :)


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