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Technical Board => Ableton Live Support Forum => Topic started by: AdaGio on 15/01/09, 03:17

Title: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: AdaGio on 15/01/09, 03:17
Buat para temen temen yang masih berpikiran bahwa Digital Rig dengan segala fasilitas en kemudahannya tuh mematikan ART dari creativity mixing itu sendiri seperti dibanding dengan turntablism ato DMC style...

lemme show you something... THE GAME HAS EVOLVED brother...

dari berbagai example yang ada diluar sana. Gw akan ambil dengan konsep basic setup yang mirip dengan turtablism / scratch deck setup, namun dimana Turntable disini akan digantikan oleh MIDI Controllers yang di pre-mapped dengan puluhan sample en FX parameters yang berbeda..

jadi engga terbatas lagi dengan sekedar needle drop en multiple scratch, namun sampler, repeater, melodic, en banyak hal gila lainnya yang bahkan jujur gue akuin belom nyampe di kepala gue.. hehe...

think this is easier than a scratch routine?? try imbangin hasil OUTPUT Sound & creativitynya dengan reguler TT set.. cuman bedanya paling TT ada motor en drag feelnya aja... that's it..

Toh in the end, its the sound that counts.. not the way you do it...


check this kid out.... could a pair of turntable do this???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt07SDpP7gA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt07SDpP7gA)

Aaron Specter.. Some crazy grunge punk musician is touring all around the world doing Mashup of Rock Music..!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt80YFonjAA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt80YFonjAA&feature=related)

MOLDOVER.. salah satu perintis Controllerism... check out his other project... this Guy is revolutionary...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O31fAYdjdVU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O31fAYdjdVU)

TUTORIAL.. Just to show kalo mereka sama sama non musician yang engga familiar with keyboards.. so they MOD theyre controllers to make it more like a sampler engine...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwjiUSnjrQk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwjiUSnjrQk)



oh ya en another thing... all of these this of course can only be done by ABLETON LIVE as the software...  *tepuktangan*
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: Gober on 15/01/09, 03:42
nice...
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: danar tri on 15/01/09, 05:04
wah ni saya suka,... minta pendapat donk,.. antara M audio Exponent ama hercules RMX menurut temen2 enakan yang mana ya,..


pertibangan harga dan vitur,..
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: danar tri on 15/01/09, 05:11
o iya mau tanya,.. lagi,.. saya sudah ada midi controler umx. rencananya mau saya gabung ama M audio Exponent atau hercules RMX(masih hunting)

kira2 gimana caranya bisa runing bareng virtual DJ/Traktor DJ..  biar bisa mixing / scratch ma mainin instrumen

trus ada gak ya program alternatif virtual dj atau traktor yang formatnya VST. kalo ada kan enak bisa di jalanin pakek LIve..
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: cie_bay on 15/01/09, 17:07
wah cool, controllerism..
kapan bisa kyk gini yah..
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: dedoSixteen on 15/01/09, 17:16
wah judul threadnya offence banget nih !! hihihi

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iP-86de-oUA (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=iP-86de-oUA)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UPNAhS73NQM (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=UPNAhS73NQM)

can controllerism do it like this?



No offence aw,,seru2 ada thread khusus abelton, mayan nambah pengetahuan !!

salam turntablist ah !! peace
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: DJFoo on 16/01/09, 19:35
Wahahaha. . .

Mantaffff. . .
Hidup ableton. . . *tepuktangan*

Beda seniny ah turntablism sama controllerism. . .  8)
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: cie_bay on 16/01/09, 23:22
Turntabilsm dan Controllerism punya kelebihan masing2..
gak bisa di bandingkan sih menurut gw..
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: olis on 18/01/09, 22:00
Jadi untuk para musisi metal yang masih acuh terhadap DJ, rubahlah pikiran anda hehehe ;D
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: dj ungu on 18/01/09, 23:44
masih susahan turntablist.. udah nyoba dua duanya.. kalo controlism its all about technology and how you learn it!!.. been there .. tapi kalo turntablist! ist all about feel, art and skill.. salute to turntablist.. no offense.. gw pake bfc 2000 dan controlism bgt tapi ttp lebih hebat turntablist menurt gw
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: boele 25hours on 19/01/09, 00:31
Gokil yg main turtable,mantap banget  *bgs* *bgs* *bgs*
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: egha on 19/01/09, 01:56
sebelumnya No offence ya brader,

menurut ane lebih gokil yg produce lagu sendiri  8)
jd mau main pake apa aja oke kok..yg ptg kita enjoy, crowd senang..*piss* *piss*
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: AdaGio on 20/01/09, 19:46
Dear Friends...

sebelumnya i just wanna say bukannya gue mau membuat kontroversi sendiri dengan mengupload thread ini..

Namun toh memang ga ada salahnya dengan statement gue, judging by the IDEAL TurnTablist yang biasanya memang Garis Keras dan menggempur serta menghujat habis para Digital Users baik di forum ini maupun dimana mana..

Dengan thread ini gue hanya mau menunjukkan bahwa digitalisasi pun juga bisa punya EDGE ato segi perlawanan dalam suatu DEBATE yang bisa dibandingkan para turntablist..

Take Notes bahwa gue juga orang yang juga berawal dari Vinyl.. gue juga familiar dengan terms terms seperti juggle, needle drop, crab, hot switch, needle drop , en berbagai varian scratch.. And i still suggest that ALL dj should start with a piece of turntable, cause that's where it all starts... ( mantan customer setia URS jaman masi di kemang  8) )


en to be honest, even with the videos that dedosixteen uploaded, i still see the same old game.. no matter how people colliding en no matter how complicated it looks..
it's still scratchin, jugglin en playin crossfader.. nuthin more... sementara di video's yang gw upload.. adakah digunakan yang namanya auto bpm? track warp? wave spectrum?

NO... jadi kenapa dikatakan ART nya hilang cuman gara gara platternya ga ada motor? ato karena bukan pake vinyl yang disentuh? padahal it's the same routine...


closing my argument... Turntablism is all where this Era begins.. and it should never be gone or forgotten... but PLEASE... open your eyes to what technology lies ahead and Think Objectively...


oh ya...... and buy ABLETON...  *tepuktangan*  *tepuktangan*  *tepuktangan*
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: DJFoo on 21/01/09, 07:26
Bijak banget nih Mas Adagio . . . .  *bgs* *bgs* *bgs*

*piss*
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: Bazzmore on 21/01/09, 08:39
buy ABLETON original ya ... ;D
turntablism or controlism ? dua dua nya oke  *bgs*
yg penting org dibelakangnya
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: de_emcee on 22/01/09, 09:12
wah om adagio kerennnnnnnnnnnnnn...

om di vidio yg pertama controlernya apaan ntu ya ??
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: dedoSixteen on 22/01/09, 09:38
agree om adagio..silahkan posting trick2 yang lainnya yah, jadi pada bisa belajar disini !!!

Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: phuture89 on 22/01/09, 10:22
adagio...konsul ni...moldover di video loe dia pake m-audio keyboard..yang besar tengah kayak mixer controller itu dia pake apa??? merk, tipe, harga?? dan gunanya?? (apa jadi mixer control nya??)

btw mate..nice thread......educated! gw belajar banyak :)

like u mate!
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: phuture89 on 22/01/09, 10:27
dan...semua gak ada yang kalah.......semua bisa melakukan apa saja asal niat. nanti akan gw upload....cdj can make magical things that turtable and control cant make it.....:) for fun....

tapi teteppp...semua nya keren...asal jangan gak ada yang berlebih dan fanatik..open ur mind...electric music is a future art..so everything is possible and HALAL!


peace ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: anggarez on 22/01/09, 12:55
semuanya keren, tergantung selera aja sih sebenernya...
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: Syndromatic on 22/01/09, 13:21
Thats why there's always and will always be "Before And After" in every single thing in life ...
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: de_emcee on 22/01/09, 15:04
CONTROLLERISM  fit in bgt ke ane...

mikirnya gmn gt.. coding 10101010 jadinya tah apa2 yg diluar kepala... agak gaib he he he

apapun alirannya tetep di rvlx ngumpulnya... amin...


"lg nawar2 hercules steel ama esi u46xl, ada pendapat?"
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: DJFoo on 22/01/09, 19:37
Hahaahaha coding . . .
Mantaabbb . . .

Bikin gw pusing. . .
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: DJ Tube on 25/02/09, 20:35
Buat para Controllerism Bentar lagi bisa ikut berguru kyak  Turntablism.......

jadi bisa ber bagi skill.... *tepuktangan* *tepuktangan*


Check this out

http://www.numark.com/ns7 (http://www.numark.com/ns7)
*piss* *piss* *piss*
Yang jelas Bisa lebih Kreasi lagi dah.......

Salam



Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: chestertoon on 25/02/09, 20:54
kerennn euy :)
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: DJ Tube on 25/02/09, 21:08
bukan mainnnn Harganya juga $1300 hahahah

spa tau masuk indonesia

:D :D
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: Berick on 24/05/09, 14:55
A new era has begun. Controllerism.
Agree with Adagio.
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: dj_junz on 24/05/09, 15:14
Yang bener mesti bisa semua nya. Nguasain TT n Controller. knowin n Doin all for good. Cari kelebihan di masing masing alat n cari improvisasi biar perform elu makin keren. Tul gak?
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: Berick on 24/05/09, 16:05

Like oldman says : It's not what you use, but how you use it.  ;)
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: dj_junz on 24/05/09, 16:24
^
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Betul banget pak. Banyak orang orang jaman sekarang keren di gear tapi gak ngerti cara memaksimalkan alat itu.
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: echaaaa on 01/06/09, 17:34
Controllism Turntablism dua2nya sama2 art


kenapa gabungin keduanya ??

Ableton Live 5.2 turntable set. 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-m5ZlWziIeA&feature=channel#lq-lq2-hq)

peace !!
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: dj_junz on 02/06/09, 11:13
^
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Ini baru ok banget. Btw itu foot pedal nya di fungsi in jadi trigger jg ya. Ok jg tuh.
Title: Re: turntablism??? NO.... It's CONTROLLERISM...!!!
Post by: decolgen on 20/06/09, 15:13
MOLDOVER canggih gan
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